Nat, Mike and Dan have returned to Camden and it only takes them 45 seconds before the arguments start. Luckily, Marek Larwood is back from his run at the Edinburgh Festival and he gets it even earlier...

In other news: Preseason is over! It meant something, promise...; regular season is very nearly here and Nat and Mike will be bringing it to you not just here but on Channel 4; biggest preseason losers were Tebow and Sanchez; the Giants are a bunch of bullys; Dan was there when Vick got bullied and heard something that hte TV guys didn't pick up on; Luck looks weirdly asincredible as he's been billed as; there's some fantasy league stuff;the Red Sox have cleaned house - sending A-Gon, Josh Beckett, Carl Crawford and Nick Punto to the LA Dodgers; the Baltimore Orioles continue to confound - now only 1 game behind the Yanqui in the AL East race; loads of mailbag; competition results and much, much more...

Mike and Dan shake off the Stratford/Greenwich Arena dust and get down to some NFL preseason bidness, aided by do- five-shows-and-get-a-free-one man of the hour Ben Isaacs. Nat shakes off the dust of the Americarnage studio and does something else and gets away remarkably lightly for it...

In other news: Dan liked Blur before they were cool; Mike liked Daley Thompon before decathlon was cool; Ben likes Party Down because it's never been cool - but it is damn good; the Olympics need to get rid of some shit; Dan's pick of Ocho-Johnson proves a little off; Luck's numbers are way misleading but he is blatantly awesome, although the Rams don't think so but screwthem, they're one-and-done with London already; Tebow plays every position ever; the guys assemble the weakest NFL player ever; Mike equivocates about preseason's importance; Dan disagrees; the Bengals get everyone injured but do well anyway; nothing happens in the hockey so it doesn't even get mentioned; the NBA, sorry, Olympic basketball works out as it was always going to; baseball happens, Ben tells us about that; good questions and even some Corrections and Clarifications from the Bodeans Mailbag and much, much more...

*Stop Press* it's another 'Carnage bye-week next week cos Mike and Dan are off to the East Coast on vaguely separate holidays. Nat will be back in two weeks with some seriously special guests and reports from our two Boston correspondants, Mike and Dan.

With Iron Mike still providing for all your Olympic basketball needs with the BBC and Tuneesha having her arse implants removed, Nat and Dan were feeling pretty blue. That is until the coolest man in sports broadcasting, Phil Spooner, said he'd pop down to the studios to school the guys in the ways of the Chargers fan...

In other news: Friend of the show Marek Larwood is at the Pleasance in Edinburgh, go and see him; Dan keeps it light with the end of the world; pre-season starts tonight so prepare to see more players than you'll see all year; TO is back. Why?; Phillip Rivers has more power than Norv; Dan reorders the NFL; the Dream Team mince the opposition at the Olympics; Team GB mash the Chinese but get beaten in every other game; things happen with the CBA in the NHL, there'll probably be a season; the trade deadline is up in the MLB and loads of people have moved to different places, Nat tells you some of them; Phil met Ray Lewis and dubs him the Alpha Male of the whole world, the gang don't gainsay him; Dan whips up another classic game, this time about supervillains; listener questions in the Bodeans Mailbag and much, much more...

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Listen to the very end of the show for some bonus Carlson...

Nat, Mike and Dan are multitalented guys. Violent, unpredictable, multitalented guys. This week they demonstrate this by revealing new skills, old methods of greeting, new things about old films, new things about new sport and much more besides. They're aided in this rollercoaster ride by the incomparable Luke Moore of The Football Ramble who fits in with this bunch of reprobates with disturbing ease...

In other news: In-jokes from off-air are not good, ignore them; books have been read, some of them are good; Mike keeps things light; Luke gets and gives updates on his newly-aquired American Sports teams; there are gratuitous Kid'n'Play references; Luck and RGIII finally sign on the dotted line; training camps have finally started for most, pre-season is offically not far away; ridiculously complex deals are going on in the NHL, only Dan understands them; corrections and clarifications causes issues again; listener questions in the Bodeans Mailbag; new game: Sweary Bollocks - Best. Game. Ever. and much, much more...

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Due to a variety of work, personal, Olympic and crack-related commitments there will be no Americarnage next week. Sorry folks.